Homosexuality is trad, but its not a good thing

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From Amaury De Riencourts Sex and Power in History
https://www.jstor.org/stable/jj.2354074 <- there are secret socities in tribal areas in melanesia ment to practice homosexuality and cannibalism
"Greek men held a contemptuous view of the opposite sex; even the
best-endowed hetairai had a difficult time competing with their clients’ male lovers. Even in Sparta, where women enjoyed more prestige and influence than in the rest of Greece, Aleman could pay no greater compliment to his women companions than to call them his “female boy-friends!”21 The poet-politician Critias stated that girls were charming only to the extent that they were slightly boyish—and vice versa.22 Homosexuality was both a cause and a consequence of this steady downgrading of the female of the species; and rave against it as they might, the hetairai proved unable to curb it. At any rate, the Greek example makes it plain that the prevalence ofmale homosexuality in any given society is tightly linked with increasing misogyny and the social repression of woman; a kind of horrorfeminae pervades the social atmosphere, springing from the fact that the typical feminine attributes—maternal procreativity and sexual-libidinal endowments— are no longer appreciated. Havelock Ellis quite rightly pointed out the
close connection between infanticide (birth control) and homosexuality, a connection that is stamped by an incipient death-wish on the part of any society where they prevail.23 When the point is reached that woman is rejected, even as a sex object, this society is, psychologically, committing suicide—as the Greek example made plain a few generations after Pericles.if we dig further, it becomes clear that one main reason for this degradation of the female sex is that, whereas we put the emphasis of love on its object and think of it in terms of the worthiness of the object, the ancient Greeks put it on the urge itself, honoring the feeling even if it happened to focus on an unworthy recipient. This made it easier for the Greeks to restrict their eroticism largely to homosexual 104 THE axial period: woman and religion relations. Its prevalence was such that it became part of public education in Sparta and Crete; it became the essential element in Greek military formations where pairs of lovers and male beloved ones formed the basic tactical unit, fighting side by side—the Sacred Band at Thebes, presumed to be the finest fighting force in the Hellenic world, was made up entirely of homosexuals. Most Greeks had only pity for those few men who could fall in love with women with the same passion as with members of their own sex.
ven the famous Platonic love is, in fact, sublimated love of an exclu¬
sively homosexual nature. In the Symposium, Pausanias states:
There are two goddesses of love, and therefore, also two forms
of Eros. The Eros of the earthly Aphrodite is earthly, universal,
common and casual. And everything common worships her. Both
sexes, man and woman, had part in the creation and birth of the
earthly Aphrodite. The higher love comes from the heavenly
Aphrodite and she is the creation of man. Therefore all youths
and men who are seized with this love strive after their own sex,
full of longing for the manly; they love the stronger nature and
the higher mind.24 Such an outlook was devastating to feminine status, dignity, and influence."

This is why we need to move AWAY from the past and CREATE new values so we do not leap back into degeneracy.

What does trad mean, in this context? I think ancient people were not homosexual, it had to be engineered from the top down in Crete (where it then spread from) and arose due to uniquely civilizational factors in most of the Sotadic world

Sectionalism said:

What does trad mean, in this context? I think ancient people were not homosexual, it had to be engineered from the top down in Crete (where it then spread from) and arose due to uniquely civilizational factors in most of the Sotadic world

If he means "ancient sin" then he's correct, if he means anything else he's wrong

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